Saturday, January 14, 2012

Arabs 2

1. I do not consider Turks white, but I have met many people who insist they are so that is already a cloudy argument.
2. Berbers did invade europe, but did they have a concept of race and racism? Did Berbers say blacks and brown better than whites and did they drill it into the heads of those in italy, spain portugal and south france. I doubt it because racial ideas come as an extension of european nationalism that was developed after europeans invented nation states. Berbers were all about religion if you were white and muslim you were no less than a brown/black muslim. Notice I did not bring up roman conquering of africa, romans idea of racism was the further you were away from rome, the bigger a scum you were. It was not based on skin color.
3. The only Arab anti white racial writing I can think of is a single writer from Iraq who said white slaves were inferior because they were some how less intelligent or something like that. But it is far from a colonial indoctrination. I did never deny Arabs oppressed people, but their oppression was not race specific, they oppressed all non arabs to the point that sudanese are not black they are "arabs" fair skinned syrians are not white they are "arabs" and pakistanis are not indians they are "Arabs".
4. Hannibal had many whites in his army(from modern spain but people who are gaelic), those people in roman times from that part of the world had no concept of race.
5.Persians have told me they are white but a different kind of white = aryan. so it is a mucky debate
6. Ancient Egyptian is a a mix of people, I've never seen of anything from that period to say they oppressed specific races especially when by the time of greek invasion there was white monarchs or puppet pharoahs put in place. Anyhow, North Africa was occupied by Turkey for almost 1000 years and most the people in places like egypt to algeria, especially along the coastal regions have far more turkish ancestry than anything else.
7. I don't see how the Dravidian people could have a caste system when they are all so black unless there was some kind of foreign invader. It has always been my understanding that the caste system was basically introduced by white skinned invaders to cement their social status as superior (which is understandable why a conquering people would do such a thing)

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